Stable Talks

Sep 30, 2025

Stable Talks: S02EP #01 – Antônia Souza (Visa)

Visa’s take on stablecoins and the future of payments

Antonia Souza portrait
Antonia Souza portrait
Antonia Souza portrait

In the first episode of Season 2 of Stable Talks powered by Bitso Business, Caio Barbosa (Co-Founder & CEO at Lumx) and Julián Colombo (Senior Director, South America at Bitso) welcome Antônia Souza, Director of Blockchain & Crypto at Visa for Latin America and the Caribbean, to explore how one of the world’s largest payment networks is approaching stablecoins and digital assets.

Antônia shares her journey from big tech (Uber, Amazon, Meta) to the world of crypto and payments, including her time as COO at Lumx before joining Visa. The conversation unpacks Visa’s evolving role as more than a card company, its early experiments with stablecoins, and the balance between innovation and compliance when working with both regulators and fintechs.

🎧 Listen to the full episode below or read on for the main highlights of the conversation.

Highlights from the conversation

1. Visa’s perspective on stablecoins

“Visa is not just a card company, we’re a tech company. Stablecoins are part of how we’re rethinking payments infrastructure.”
— Antônia Souza

  • How Visa first became interested in blockchain and stablecoins

  • Stablecoins as programmable, efficient settlement rails

  • From speculation to real infrastructure in payments

2. Stablecoin-backed cards

“Stablecoin-backed cards are a powerful bridge, connecting digital assets with the everyday payments experience.”
— Antônia Souza

  • Growing interest in cards linked to stablecoins

  • Opportunities for faster settlement and global reach

  • Why consumer experience still matters most

3. CBDCs and Drex in Brazil

“CBDCs are state-led infrastructure, but stablecoins are already solving problems today.”
— Antônia Souza

  • Visa’s participation in Brazil’s Drex pilot alongside XP and Agrotoken

  • Differences between CBDCs and stablecoins in flexibility and adoption

  • How global institutions navigate public-private collaboration

4. Latin America as a live lab

“In LatAm, adoption isn’t theoretical — it’s a necessity. That’s why stablecoins are growing here faster than anywhere else.”
— Antônia Souza

  • Why countries like Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, and Colombia are leading stablecoin use

  • Use cases: remittances, inflation protection, B2B payments

  • Regional adoption grew more than 200% in 2023–24

5. Innovation inside large institutions

“At Visa, we’re in a continuous process of evolution, the challenge is fostering innovation within an already consolidated market.”
— Antônia Souza

  • Differences between startups and incumbents in innovating

  • The role of compliance and consumer protection

  • Building with long-term trust in mind

Stablecoins: from speculation to infrastructure

This episode shows how stablecoins are moving from speculative assets to becoming the backbone of real-world payments infrastructure. Antônia’s perspective highlights Visa’s dual role: driving innovation while ensuring trust and compliance. For Latin America, the message is clear, stablecoins are no longer optional, but essential for the future of digital payments.

“Stablecoins are the beginning of programmable money, and we’re just scratching the surface.”
— Antônia Souza (Visa)

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